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Postby John » Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:07:18 am

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    Re: BRENDA

    Postby Brenda Lowe » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:15:06 am

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    You can PM me at the board where you were recruited dummy :P

    I will check in there periodically today.
     

    Re: BRENDA

    Postby John » Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:44:46 pm

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    Of course that thread delivers Brenda. It involves me icon_biggrin

    I know you said you wouldn't post anything more from both sides but I have a reply that I'm sure will get Mia's knickers in a knot and have her fume a little bit more as I call her clueless for the most part which will be funny to see how she reacts. I reckon a few others will get worked up to some degree too.

    I think you should post it in that thread as I don't think it will have any impact or interest once the game is over and as you can tell I am a big fan of fireworks and drama.

    I don't mention any of the final 4 so it should have no impact on their game and the final vote whatsoever.

    I'll post it in the next post. I see no harm in this being posted now and I hope you don't either.

    POST IT POST IT POST IT PRETTY PLEASE with a cherry on top. Let's have some fun with it!
     

    Re: BRENDA

    Postby John » Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:51:02 pm

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    Brenda, if you can quote this and post it in that thread, it's in response to Mia's clueless and bitter accusations. I'm pretty sure I won't be at the reunion either.



    Mia, this is in response to your claims and how my game took place so perhaps if you read this you might appreciate me as a person AND as a player. Sorry it’s an essay but this is how things panned out from my eyes.


    Firstly, I was the last to log on hence why I had the ridiculous role of being the leader that you fuckwits assigned to me (stupid very much) and I already knew people were gunning for me so I made up a lie about having to give an immunity clue to someone from the other tribe. I chose you and Chad to try and get close to as I knew Chad didn’t like you too much at that point so I felt neither would find out I was supposedly trusting the other. I considered telling Brook too but I thought that might be overkill. My little lie worked as both you and Chad trusted me and that was the pure reason for it. I thought if I were to make the merge and it was to come out I could play Tom and make him come across as a bullshit artist as what advantage would me saying I would give a clue to someone from the opposing tribe have as I honestly doubt you guys would have picked up on me making that lie up to gain your trust from the get go unfortunately it wasn’t meant to be but that lie had nothing to do with me being voted out so I thought it was a clever move on my part. Far from “retarded”.

    Mia you was a great source of information for me so I had you where I wanted you and I know no one really liked you. Chad was also a great partner. Between the 2 of you I was clued on to everything on Guatuso. The only thing I can say that I wasn’t switched on was Ami, Brook, Chris and Dolly’s secret 4 person alliance but I did suspect Ami was playing two sides just not Brook.

    Yes I might have sucked at the challenges and they weren’t my forte but you guys assigned me as leader and I didn’t have a choice in the puzzle challenge as the leader was the person expected to post and I tried my damn best. It wasn’t until Jeff said during the challenge we can switch that we did. And Chad as for the number challenge I was sincere with what I said happened in that but challenges aside I don’t think that was the reason I was given the boot.

    In the meantime Brook, Chad and I made an alliance along with Ami (which I call my ABC alliance). I rallied for Julie to be the first to get the boot and in the discussion as to who was to go next if we were to lose Brook wanted you gone, I suggested Dolly.

    I believe Brook wanted you gone and like someone mentioned someone told Brook of you targeting him from early on. I never wanted to eliminate you and saw no reason to. I just went along with what Brook was saying so the alliance wouldn’t catch on I was close to you and trying to work with you.

    I was happy to stick to this ABC alliance until Ami made a move that showed me she was playing more than one side and I felt she had something going on with every single person in the game. Like Chad, I was also convinced there was an all-girls alliance going on. Furthermore, Dolly approached me asking why I was planning on getting rid of her to which I knew someone in my ABC alliance was playing both sides. I felt it was Ami but it turns out it was Brook. (Sorry Ami, Brook’s shadiness made me think you were a snake).

    Brook wanted you gone instead of Julie and he rallied but Julie’s inactiveness prevailed and as tribe leader I made a point of saying to everyone we need to vote as a unified tribe and for the best interest of our tribe.

    So Mia I was never playing you other than the lie I told you to gain your trust. I felt you were a number and good ally for me.

    As for original Guatuso, I sent a hello how are you PM to all of you the day I arrived to which four of you didn’t even reply other than something sarcastic or something blunt. Hell Lisa’s reply was “You’ll make a good leader” and that was it without even knowing me as a person or what leadership skills I could have. So I really wasn’t given a chance. Even Ami’s reply had me concerned. It was only Brook and Chad who replied and tried to get to know me. Even you Mia weren’t interested until I filled you up with bullshit about the idol clue and then you were all ears and were telling me absolutely everything. I participated in every game we had going on and I tried to keep lines of communication open with everyone so don’t blame me for Guatuso being fucked up. Perhaps what Chad and Ibrehem and whoever else in the jury saying about you having no idea holds some truth. No offence to anyone but Guatuso were a bunch of MISFITS and I shouldn’t be getting the blame for that! If the people from Guatuso had half a brain they would have tried to work together and be nicer to one another but too many people were planning on taking each other out and not taking obvious people out like Dolly or Lisa who were absent from challenges and pretty absent from playing the game in general and appeared very weak but taking out everyone else. It’s no wonder Guatuso have pretty much all been eliminated. I planned on staying true to Guatuso the whole time even once we merged after the shuffle. Stupid me I know.

    And if you think Nu Chorotega was the bomb then you’re delusional. You voted out Caryn and Chris first once the merge came then turned on BJ and even were prepared to throw Ami under the bus at one point. What was so good? Tom’s wishy washy game play? If that’s what you call fun and enjoyable I can’t help but laugh.

    If anything NUGUatuso was an alright tribe as Jolanda and Ibrehem were enjoyable as was Chad and Gregg. Brook didn’t do much for the tribe to be honest and that’s not having a stab at him, he was just low key so I thought.
    I also tried to make Brook feel more at ease about keeping you when you suggested we bring him in to our alliance and I was on board with that but I knew he didn’t trust you enough for him to want to align with you. I wasn’t expecting Brook to be playing me but that’s another story.

    Once we had the tribal shuffle this is how it went down.

    Chris was picked by Tom first and to me that was great as I knew Chris was keeping his distance with me and said fuck all to me the whole game even after I wrote a g’day PM to the whole tribe his response was very brief and very blunt.

    I chose Chad as he had the idol clue and was working with me again this was perfect for me.

    You were picked next which I was bummed about as I was hoping you would have been one of the last 2 remaining. I would have thought Tom would have picked Ami before you and I thought the other tribe viewed you as somewhat annoying so was surprised you were picked so soon.
    I then chose Brook as I felt I could trust him and felt we had a decent bond. Also I had to choose someone I knew Chad would be OK with and I know Chad had doubts with Ami who was in what we thought a strong alliance.

    Ami was chosen next and I was cheering believe me as I felt she was playing both sides and I could cut ties with her. As it appears she was as she has admitted to working with my ABC alliance and her ABCD alliance.
    I had a choice between Dolly and Lisa and I would have loved for you to be a choice at this point but unfortunately that wasn’t meant to be. I opted for Dolly only because I felt she was more active than Lisa.
    Once we were NuGuatuso I went along with Brook and Chad and played it up that you were annoying as hell to Gregg, Ibrehem and Jolanda but in all honesty you didn’t bother me or get under my skin like you did everyone else.

    We were able to get Gregg on our side to give us the numbers advantage to vote out Wanda and in the process create the 4 horseman alliance.

    Brook then turned on me because I suggested getting rid of Dolly who he had a love affair with but like Gregg and Chad state that was a stupid move on his part and as I have said in my thread in loser lounge I couldn’t agree more.

    Then we had the fake fight that was in public and we were hoping you guys would throw the challenge to spare us splitting Jolanda and Ibrehem up which would in turn have the one remaining turn on us at the first given opportunity. I knew and would have been very surprised if you would have been voted out and was hoping either Ami or Caryn would get the boot. Secretly I was hoping it would be Ami as I really didn’t trust her. Everyone else on my tribe was trying to hint to NuChorotega to get rid of you but if anything it helped you. I also felt that if successful this was a move (the fake fight that is) I could later claim credit for. That was the only reason I was prepared to get rid of Dolly plus I felt she had something going on with Ami, Lisa and possibly yourself.

    From that point, my plan was then to go to the merge with the 4 horseman alliance (Gregg, Chad and Brook). I knew Jolanda would have gone back to Tom and/or BJ in a heartbeat if we had have voted out Ibrehem. I thought between Gregg, Brook, Chad and myself we would have been able to sway someone over to vote with us. I sensed Caryn didn’t care for Tom and I got the impression Ami was in trouble and I felt Chad and Chris had a decent bond and I felt if you hadn’t have caught on to my lie then I could perhaps try to tee something with you but I would assume the fact I wasn’t giving the supposed idol clue to you that you would get upset with me and feel I didn’t have your back or that I was full of shit.

    I also didn’t trust Gregg fully and had doubts about his word and felt he was still tight with Ibrehem and Jolanda to some degree. I wasn’t expecting Brook to get his knickers in a knot over my suggestion at keeping NuGuatuso strong and voting out who I felt was weak and a letdown for our tribe and that being Dolly and that was later my demise.
    Jolanda and Ibrehem I can respect their move in getting rid of me as they were in a desperate place at the time but I think it did more harm than good to Brook and Gregg’s game. If they couldn’t see I was a loyal vote and not a threat with the other tribe and that Ibrehem and Jolanda wouldn’t flip then I guess that speaks volumes for the game they were trying to play. Brook’s game can be compared to the likes of a suicide bomber, he didn’t care if he was voted out and whose game he was ending and on top of that he really wasn’t keeping his options open and looking down the road. I suspected there was going to be another tribal shuffle and I made this clear hence why I was downplaying things to Jolanda and Ibrehem and trying to make them feel comfortable. I wasn’t sure if Gregg’s move to get rid of me was in the hopes to gain power and control but after reading a recent post of his where he didn’t agree with Brook makes me question his motives too.

    So that was my game. I played hard and I would have liked to make it further but it is what it is! I believe I was in control for the most part until Brook got his knickers in a knot. A good effort by me considering I was last to log in and I had daggers being thrown at me from every direction.

    I made an alliance with Ami, Brook and Chad but I was keeping you at close quarters too. My sights were to get rid of Dolly, Lisa and Chris before you.

    We’ve all fucked up at some point in the game but I will say out of everyone I played with Mia, I think you’ve played a somewhat decent game throughout and yes you might have made the jury but my game wasn’t a shit one either. Chad, likewise. I think you played a swell game. I also give credit to Jolanda’s game too.

    I was a loyal vote and any alliance I made I stuck with. I never had an alliance with Julie, Wanda or Dolly who were the 3 people I voted out and the night I left I made Ibrehem think he was in a 4 person alliance and I listened to who he wanted gone but I never actually agreed to it (Chad did) and was sticking with the 4 horseman alliance.

    Ami surprised me tonight with some of her comments but for me she blew it with me when she was playing both sides so early on. How she made it so far baffles me as she has had an alliance with everyone at some point. Shame on you guys for not getting rid of her sooner. Surely you could all see this? I could see it from early on.

    And Chris it’s good that someone was sad to see Brook go, personally I couldn’t have been any happier to see him join me at losers lounge. He really shot himself and it was his own stupidity he was voted out. In my eyes his move really cost old Guatuso from joining back up and working together which was the downfall for most of our games, yours included. Brook’s suicidal and wishy washy play is the reason no one from Guatuso will win.

    So Mia, what did I fuck up? Are you bitter because I lied to you about the idol clue? I felt it was a necessary and clever move. Don’t hate on me because everyone else didn’t like you and wanted you gone. I may have been voted out early but for the time I was playing I was playing hard and possibly playing better than a lot of people who played UTR games and placed better than me. I was rooting for you and had respect for your game but I am starting to see what the jury has said about you to have some truth post merge because your game was nothing whilst I was still in it pre merge.
     

    Re: BRENDA

    Postby Brenda Lowe » Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:19:15 pm

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    Holy wall of text Batman. I can't post that D: Not before they vote at least.

    You're gonna have to wait till reunion to share that one I'm afraid.
     

    Re: BRENDA

    Postby Brenda Lowe » Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:20:13 pm

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    Oh wait, you won't be at the reunion. I'll make sure to point her this direction when the board is all opened up. Best I can do soz.

    Let them focus on their Jury-duties for now.
     

    Re: BRENDA

    Postby Lurker Penny » Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:46:10 pm

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    Mia darling when you read this just keep in mind that these people hating on you are complete idiots. You stay strong girl!!
     

    Re: BRENDA

    Postby John » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:08:20 pm

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    Lurker Penny wrote:Mia darling when you read this just keep in mind that these people hating on you are complete idiots. You stay strong girl!!


    I don't hate Mia.
    She hates me.
     

    Re: BRENDA

    Postby John » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:42:22 pm

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    Brenda Lowe wrote:Oh wait, you won't be at the reunion. I'll make sure to point her this direction when the board is all opened up. Best I can do soz.

    Let them focus on their Jury-duties for now.


    No prob and thanks.
    I have a big day at work on Friday so doubt I'll be around for the Reunion.
    I'm spewin I'll be missing tonight's Survivor and can't watch it until the weekend if I'm lucky.

    Do give John some loving but. I've been bashed left right and centre by a few people haha.
     

    Re: BRENDA

    Postby John » Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:18:31 am

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    I am glad Chad set the record straight and has let Mia know I didn't want her gone.
    She has her facts totally wrong where that was concerned.

    Sorry Mia, I didn't mean to be harsh or nasty in the essay I wrote above but I felt the moves I made were warranted and I hope you can appreciate and see that.
     

    Re: BRENDA

    Postby Brenda Lowe » Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:59:23 am

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    This is spooky, it's like you two are having a conversation, yet she gets none of your messages :o Once the board opens up, this is the first place you should check;

    viewtopic.php?f=42&t=317&view=unread#p8471

    It's Mia's Fallen Comrade for you. (The link won't work yet ofc, it will once the board opens up)
     

    Re: BRENDA

    Postby John » Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:42:49 am

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    Brenda Lowe wrote:This is spooky, it's like you two are having a conversation, yet she gets none of your messages :o Once the board opens up, this is the first place you should check;

    viewtopic.php?f=42&t=317&view=unread#p8471

    It's Mia's Fallen Comrade for you. (The link won't work yet ofc, it will once the board opens up)


    Should I be scared?

    I honestly liked Mia. Thought she was stupid at times in some of her moves and suggestions but overall I valued her honesty and friendship.
     

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    Postby Brenda Lowe » Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:18:26 am

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    Feel free to do a fallen comrades yourself if you feel so inclined. It'll have to be public though (or do you still have access to your Guatusan confessional? idr)
     

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    Postby Brenda Lowe » Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:19:22 am

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    Aaaactually, I was gonna ask the players to do the lurkers too, but I never did. You're the only one (and the other pre-mergers) who could actually do it and have it make sense :P
     

    Re: BRENDA

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    Brenda Lowe wrote:Aaaactually, I was gonna ask the players to do the lurkers too, but I never did. You're the only one (and the other pre-mergers) who could actually do it and have it make sense :P



    I didn't get a chance to really play with everyone to really do a fallen comrades thing but I'll do a very brief one.

    Jeff - he sounds like a nice bloke.

    Julie - never spoke with her but from what I heard she was nice.

    Wanda - she seemed really nice and unfortunately Watson the wrong side of the numbers at the time.

    Dolly - she was interesting, was fed some info and reacted on it I. Quite an abrasive way I thought.

    Brook - I think I've made my thoughts on him pretty clear.

    Caryn - I thought she was funny.

    Chris - good at challenges. I thought he was sly. Never really spoke to him.

    Jolanda - I like Jolanda, she was nice.

    Gregg - very confused. Don't understand some of his moves. He was nice enough.

    Mia - I like Mia, sad to see she feels hatred towards me. Things aren't what she thinks.

    Chad - I like Chad and had the same train of thought as him for the post part.

    Ibrehem - seem very nice but I thought he on the sneaky side.

    Ami - I owe her an apology as I was ready to turn on her as I was under the impression she was a snake and playing me and in actual fact I now know she wasn't the snake. She seems nice and has a good sense of humour.

    Tom - I never played with him but I don't think much of him to be honest. The way he attacked me in that fake fight for supposedly being honest and upfront when he was a lying backstabbing bitch turned me off him. Was happy to see him miss the finals to be honest. I also believe he mouthed me off a fair bit and he claims to be a heroic leader! Heroic leaders don't trash others.

    Kim - never played with her but I respect her game.

    BJ - never played with him but like Kim I respect is game. He was a crafty and clever player I thought.

    Lisa - very quiet but seems nice enough. Se needs better communication skills.



    As for the lurkers, there aren't many to comment on and I didn't really interact with any of them. They need to make lurking more fun as there were only a handful that were talkative but RL does get in the way so I understand.

    Penny - I am a Penny fan I must say.

    Christy - she seems nice enough

    Shawna - seems nice enough too.

    Ryan - I think this dude has a dirty mind.

    I recall seeing Joanna, Chase and Catalie but never spoke to them.


    So it's brief but there you have it. Sorry if I missed anyone.
    Also I am on my IPad so if there is an error with a word or two and it doesn't make sense auto correct could have changed something but I think I fixed those mistakes.
     

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    Postby Brenda Lowe » Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:33:38 pm

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    You have the right read on Ryan for sure. icon_lol
     

    Re: BRENDA

    Postby John » Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:39:46 pm

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    I also want to say about Penny that even though she sucks on the Australian version (being voted out not once but twice in two different games with an immunity idol)I am glad she got to prove her worth and win on the American version.

    She's an awesome person and heaps nice and a well deserved winner in my eyes.
     

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    Postby Brenda Lowe » Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:49:50 pm

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    :o tmi!
     

    Re: BRENDA

    Postby John » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:05:49 pm

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    Brenda Lowe wrote::o tmi!


    Sorry, I thought it was public knowledge.
     
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