Day 30 - Final Tribal Council

Exactly. Do the right thing Gregg.

Congratulations to all three of you guys!
When it comes down to it, you did what we on the jury could not, regardless of who played a "winning game"...which is hard to say who did. Very hard to say...
This season has been very unpredictable, so don't take any of these last jury questions lightly.
You may be very confident that you'll win and you may feel that you have no chance...
But the title of sole survivor is still very much in the air, so don't give up!


Lisa, I have to commend you for playing this game without actually backstabbing anyone, like me. That is a great achievement and even though we never really got to know each other that well, I'm SO proud of you! I didn't think you would make the merge let alone the finals! I think everyone here is shocked including yourself. Tell me your biggest move that YOU made on your own accord and include why you personally feel Kim and Bobby Jon shouldn't win. Thanks, Lisa!

Thanks so much Ibe! I liked your game a lot too <3 Yeah I'm def shocked that I actually made it this far

I brought this up a couple times earlier but I think my pivotal move was the Gregg boot TC. You approached me with an offer to team up with all of the outsiders and takeover. And it was really tempting and really got me thinking big time. I was really considering it and thought about it a lot and ultimately decided that it would be best for me to stick with the group that I first promised my loyalty to. I felt like that was the vote that really showed the type of game I was playing and proved I was gonna stay loyal and that way I wouldn't be looked at as expendable. I felt like that was the vote that got me this far.

As for why I feel like Kim & BJ shouldn't win, this is really hard cause I think they both played great games obviously since they wouldn't be here if they didn't. If anything I would say that BJ would have been voted out more than once if it wasn't for idols while Kim & I were never in that situation. And Kim shouldn't win because *I* want to win Really though they both played great games so it's all good no matter what happens.

Thanks again Ibe!

Lisa- I don't think you initiated a single pm to me all game and it seems like you are here because people from your original tribe saw you as a loyal vote and someone who when they made it to the end with was no threat to win. You are like a sane version of Caryn. No offense but if you ultimately get my vote it will be because neither Kim or Bobby Jon did enough to sway me their vote

Understandable Thanks for a great game Gregg!! You were a fun person to be in the game with!

I think this dead horse has almost been beaten enough, but I want to address the hidden immunity idol situation one last time. I understand that I would have been voted out if I hadn't found the idols and I wish that I hadn't needed them. What I don’t understand is why they seem to be considered a less valid way of getting further in the game than, say, winning immunity challenges or not pulling the purple rock.

Personally, I don’t like hidden immunity idols. I like my Survivor pure. However, this game that we all signed up for included idols from the very beginning and we all had an equal shot at getting our hands on them. They were just as much a part of this game as any other aspect, whether you like it or not. As I have already pointed out, Kim won immunity at the final 5 to keep herself in the game and Kim won the final 4 tie-breaker challenge to keep herself in the game. I don’t think that should take anything away from the game that she played, just as I don’t think my success at finding idols to keep myself in the game should take anything away from the game that I played. All I’m asking is that if you decide not to vote for me, please don’t let the fact that I found and used two hidden immunity idols be the only reason for your decision.

Cue the eye-rolling and vomitingfrom the usual suspects

Exactly. Do the right thing Gregg.

I think this dead horse has almost been beaten enough, but I want to address the hidden immunity idol situation one last time. I understand that I would have been voted out if I hadn't found the idols and I wish that I hadn't needed them. What I don’t understand is why they seem to be considered a less valid way of getting further in the game than, say, winning immunity challenges or not pulling the purple rock.

Personally, I don’t like hidden immunity idols. I like my Survivor pure. However, this game that we all signed up for included idols from the very beginning and we all had an equal shot at getting our hands on them. They were just as much a part of this game as any other aspect, whether you like it or not. As I have already pointed out, Kim won immunity at the final 5 to keep herself in the game and Kim won the final 4 tie-breaker challenge to keep herself in the game. I don’t think that should take anything away from the game that she played, just as I don’t think my success at finding idols to keep myself in the game should take anything away from the game that I played. All I’m asking is that if you decide not to vote for me, please don’t let the fact that I found and used two hidden immunity idols be the only reason for your decision.

Cue the eye-rolling and vomitingfrom the usual suspects

Your defending the idols is making things worse. You were going to be voted out TWICE because people wanted you out TWICE. You're still sitting here, so good job, but the fact that you can't accept that two heaping servings of luck got you there is really offputting.

Emotes only please Mia. Don't make me lock this down.

Sorry!

*facepalm*

Don't you mean

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*facepalm*

Don't you mean

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(just to point out, he spoke out of turn as well. he had already answered his questions, nobody asked him to explain the idol thing further)

(also won't happen again, shutting up now!)

Good grief lol, you just can't help yourself

I am posting this so BJ doesn't have to, and to clarify to the other finalists that yes, they can use this time to expand on anything they feel they need to, or not.

leaving it open for the final 3 to go back and re-answer any questions that they felt they did not answer thoroughly enough.

Please don't answer this Mia, unless it's purely in emote form Feel free to bitch me out in the confines of the Juryhaus.

Just for the record, Kim hasn't answered for mine yet.

I know, I just don't I was really required to? Jeff was like, "Yeah that'll be it for the night." I can get to it whenever though.

Kim, my first question is for you. Following the merge, you did A LOT of backstabbing. (Which I'm sure is general knowledge by now. That's not good by the way.) A good portion of the jury, actually... I NEVER knew if I could trust you or not in-game (not even at the Mia vote like you claim I did, I honestly still don't know if I do trust you at all, and I never really did until the F6 vote because I had to). Even up until the tribal council before my elimination, you still voted for Bobby Jon. You flipped on NuChorotega to help eliminate Caryn. You backstabbed Chris, Jolanda, Gregg and Mia. I heard you targeted me at one point. Yet, in the end, my place in the game was decided simply on the fact that I would never backstab you. I have no doubt that I could have won that challenge after my elimination. But, I'm here because I couldn't find it in myself to backstab as easily as you can. My question is why do you deserve the votes and respect of the people that you helped decide to eliminate by flipping so much? It seems to me you're trying to pass it off by calling it "taking risks" and "oh, my strategy was just flipping a lot and letting Tom take the heat" ... when it was clearly backstab... after backstab... after backstab. And now, in the Final 3, Tom isn't here to take any more heat. It's just you. Admit it, what you said is fancy for saying you simply rode Tom's coattails almost the whole way here. Up until the Mia vote, but even after that you jumped RIGHT THE HELL BACK TO TOM. All you did was beat Tom in a tie-breaker at the Final 4, you didn't distance yourself like you claim you did, it still seemed you were riding his coattails. So, please explain why you feel you deserve ANY kind of respect or votes from the jury. Personally, I find a lot of trouble in giving you my vote because, as you say, it took you until the FINAL 6 to "officially settle on an alliance"... In my eyes, that really just makes you sound extremely untrustworthy, two-faced and mostly a follower in a social game like this, and hardly strategic by any means with the exception of the Mia boot, which Chad helped you with. All you did was convince Tom to vote a certain way, and you're draining that move for all its worth which is hardly anything truly amazing by the way since you two were together most of the game... Thank you, Kim.
(Also, remember to post the Britney gif after the winner is announced! )

Thank you guys and congrats again!

Alright fair enough. Firstly, I just wanna say that lying and backstabbing is an integral part of the game, and I just say right now point blank that I don't regret absolutely anything I've done in this game. The only thing I would change is maybe be a little more proactive in the pre-merge but even then that was like an entirely different game. But with the way I merged, backstabbing was inevitable considering I basically had an arrangement with everyone at the start of the merge except for Chad.
And I don't think I rode Tom's coattails at all. I think he was little more vocal than me and he was more aggressive but like I said, he wasn't making my decisions for me. We always talked things over together. I felt that I was closer with original Chorotega and Tom was closer to Guatuso, so we would basically gather all the information we could and relay it back to each other and then consider our options and make a decision from there.
In terms of the backstabbing.. like I said before, I needed to do it or I wouldn't be sitting here. Post-merge I essentially had two "concrete" options, stick with old Chorotega the whole way through (which probably would've ended up in me getting 5/6th place) or stick with the pact nuChorotega made before we got swapped the 2nd time (which again, probably would've resulted in me getting 5/6th place). So that's why I needed to flip back and forth. With Chris gone, my vote became more valuable for Ami, Mia, Lisa, and Chad since I picked off someone in the alliance who I thought was higher up on the totem pole than me. When Jolanda left, the same thing applies with you, Bobby Jon, and Gregg. I made a decision to take out the figure head of the Chorotega alliance because I know all you guys would've picked her over me at the end of the day. After the Jolanda boot, that's really when the Chad/Tom/me thing started, and Chad and I bonded over that because we both felt that we'd be at the bottom of any alliance if we just chose to lay down and stick with them to the very end.
The reason I "went right back to Tom" after we got rid of Mia is because you and Bobby Jon were targeting Chad for some reason and it made absolutely no sense. He wasn't as big of a threat as Ami, and he basically saved both you and Bobby Jon's asses and gave you opportunity to get really far and you just shut him out as soon as Mia was gone? I didn't agree with Chad going.. but had you suggested we get rid of Ami or Lisa I would've been done, and I'm sure maybe even Chad would've been too, and BJ wouldn't even have needed to play his idol. You and BJ just played the entire F7 round wrong and it would've been game over for both of you had Bobby Jon not had the idol.
And that was all part of my strategy. When Jolanda left, the BJ/Gregg/you really had no choice but to take me to the end game. When Mia left, Ami of course freaked out and I look a whole lot more valuable to her because with Mia gone Ami now needs another number in her alliance if she still wants to make it work.
I deserve respect because I played my flips smart. Bobby Jon "flipped" too early. Tom never flipped but perhaps he should have. All my backstabs were completely justified. With Jolanda still in the game, everyone in the Chorotega alliance would be looking out for her instead of me. In a nut shell with every single vote I was giving myself more options while at the same time limiting the options of others. That's when someone from my "alliance" went home I'd always be okay because I always had other options and relationships with people from the other "side" and back-up plans. And that's why I deserve to win over Bobby Jon and Lisa. Bobby Jon did not play his flips smart and had to rely on idols, (and realistically he made a bad move by not voting me out last night, cause had he voted for me, I'm almost positive all the Chorotegas would've voted for him on the jury against Tom and Lisa, I know I would have), and Lisa would basically be nowhere in the game without the two/three people she chose to have conversations with. If Ami/Mia left earlier in the game than they did, Lisa would've been screwed because she was too firm in her alliance and she didn't really have relationships with anybody outside of that alliance.

and realistically he made a bad move by not voting me out last night, cause had he voted for me, I'm almost positive all the Chorotegas would've voted for him on the jury against Tom and Lisa, I know I would have

Kim - I know we only really talked really in a short window of time since we were only actually on the same tribe like 3-4 rounds. I know you may have even wanted me out round 1 of the game. Having said that it appears you maybe had the largest role in shaping the post merge. Let's just play a hypoethetical lets say at the swap instead of the Nu Churros and Nu Gutusos both team are slightly different and you guys are bogged down with John and we get one of your better challenge performers and you guys go to 2 or 3 tribal after the shuffle. How much do you fancy your chances of making the merge in that hypothetical scenario

I mean, let's just say that we get John and NuGuatuso gets Mia instead. I still think I do pretty well. We may not win as many challenges as we would have otherwise but I still think we would've some, just not all. So if we lose, I'm sure John targets Caryn for being the least active, (like he did in reality with Wanda), and I'm safe. It's kind of hard to predict what would've happened, but had Caryn been on the chopping block, the original Chorotegas probably would've voted as a block to tie the vote, and we send home who we choose because Tom is the leader, and then boom, I'm in the majority. If Caryn still goes, I still think I'd be okay, just because John was a loose cannon and he and Ami had so much drama and I just imagine things playing out the way they actually did on nuGuatuso. In another side note, and I can't be positive, but John was just really crazy and at Chorotega we had an agreement that one person takes the idol clue and we all share it, and I doubt John would've ever been down for that and maybe that would've made him a target right off the bat? Again, it's hard to say what could've happened, but the point is, it didn't happen, and as nuChorotega we won all those challenges as a team and we earned them. Winning pre-merge challenges is part of the game. Everyone in the Final 3 benefited from the challenge dominance, not just me.
Also, Mia found the Chorotega idol, and I was the 2nd person after her to actually figure out what the password was, and if she was on the other tribe then I'm pretty sure I would've gotten the idol too.

Kim - I know we only really talked really in a short window of time since we were only actually on the same tribe like 3-4 rounds. I know you may have even wanted me out round 1 of the game. Having said that it appears you maybe had the largest role in shaping the post merge. Let's just play a hypoethetical lets say at the swap instead of the Nu Churros and Nu Gutusos both team are slightly different and you guys are bogged down with John and we get one of your better challenge performers and you guys go to 2 or 3 tribal after the shuffle. How much do you fancy your chances of making the merge in that hypothetical scenario

I mean, let's just say that we get John and NuGuatuso gets Mia instead. I still think I do pretty well. We may not win as many challenges as we would have otherwise but I still think we would've some, just not all. So if we lose, I'm sure John targets Caryn for being the least active, (like he did in reality with Wanda), and I'm safe. It's kind of hard to predict what would've happened, but had Caryn been on the chopping block, the original Chorotegas probably would've voted as a block to tie the vote, and we send home who we choose because Tom is the leader, and then boom, I'm in the majority. If Caryn still goes, I still think I'd be okay, just because John was a loose cannon and he and Ami had so much drama and I just imagine things playing out the way they actually did on nuGuatuso. In another side note, and I can't be positive, but John was just really crazy and at Chorotega we had an agreement that one person takes the idol clue and we all share it, and I doubt John would've ever been down for that and maybe that would've made him a target right off the bat? Again, it's hard to say what could've happened, but the point is, it didn't happen, and as nuChorotega we won all those challenges as a team and we earned them. Winning pre-merge challenges is part of the game. Everyone in the Final 3 benefited from the challenge dominance, not just me.
Also, Mia found the Chorotega idol, and I was the 2nd person after her to actually figure out what the password was, and if she was on the other tribe then I'm pretty sure I would've gotten the idol too.