Episode 12

Postby Helen Glover » Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:36:21 pm

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    You have the whole weekend ahead of you, so lots of questions that I hope you can give us some serious insight into where your mind is at, closing into this final week of potential mayhem.

    Is it a relief that Mia's gone? Are you satisfied with the move? How does it change the game, now?

    Talk me through the four others that joined you in voting her out tonight. What are the dynamics of that group?

    Do you want that group of five to go to the top? If they do, what would happen next?

    Do you think anyone within that group of five will turn on you specifically, or defect to the two outsiders who voted for Bobby Jon tonight? Is there anyone among that five who you think needs to go before the two outsiders?

    Then, let's focus on jury. Who do you ideally want to be in the end with? Why? Who do you definitely NOT want to be in the end with? Why? If you make it to the end, who do you think you'd most likely be with? Based on feasibility of them making it that for, or working with you to get there?
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Chad » Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:55:46 am

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    This...... worked...... out....... PERFECTLY. OH EM GEE.

    No..... seriously....

    So after we finally made the decision that booting Mia was the right thing to do, after a long stressful thinking session and some maniacal posting in the previous episode's Confessional. And it was the right thing to do. Three vs. two. We had to take a shot at Mia-Ami-Lisa first. But what I was so worried about was Ami realizing I was totally screwing the Guatusos over and wasn't with them. Because I am going to need her vote. And I would have had to bullshit my ass off and make up some outlandish story on why I did what I did especially after swearing to Mia on all that was holy that I was not going to vote her out.

    Enter lunatic Mia....

    I don't know why Mia does the things she does. I can't say I understand her brain processes like her brilliant 4-3-1 plan she came up with the other day. But HOLY FUCKING SHIT woman. WHAT was THAT????

    It's almost like I'm on Joe Schmo or something because this shit keeps falling into my lap from angels in reality heaven.

    I'm not exactly sure why Mia didn't feel safe. I mean... she wasn't safe... but still. Considering I had just flipped on her and there is really no way of her knowing that... I mean her timing is impeccable. In the half-crazed paranoid manner that she goes about everything in this game... somehow she thinks it is a good idea to start a thread, announce she has the idol, post a picture of said idol, and declare that she will be using it at tonight's TC.

    What?

    No.... seriously... What?

    Now I can kinda maybe understand the reasoning behind this. A little. Maybe. She was basically threatening Tom, and probably me, not to flip. I guess. But here's the thing.... if she was going to use the idol, why on gods green earth would she just not, i dunno, use it? And make sure her target definitely goes home? I mean that would be the logical thing to do. Not that Mia is always logical, but this is pretty basic shit here. So if anyone other than Mia had done this, there is about a 99.9% chance that they are doing this as a scare tactic and they have no intention of using it. But with Mia you never know.

    So after a bunch of running around and panicking and chaos - I can't deny that there was some running and panicking and chaos on my part either - Stay the course. And of course right before TC I tell Mia she has them all in a panic and they've decided to settle on a Lisa boot. icon_mml Worst case scenario - we lose BJ. But Ibe trusts us. And he's our fourth vote. And the idol is flushed. And we get BJ out without betraying him. And we get Mia out next time with no threat of an idol out there. WIN-WIN.

    But what is even MORE AWESOME about this chain of nonsensical events performed by Mia.... I now have a legitimate, understandable, completely logical reason to vote her out. For my bullshit story I need to lay on Ami to make sure she is still working with me. Because I need her vote for two more rounds. THANK YOU MIA. No really... thank you...

    I'm almost in awe of how this stuff seems to be falling in my lap lately. Am I Joe Schmo?

    So before TC, I start planting the seeds with Ami that I thought what Mia was doing was completely fucked up and she was putting all of our games at risk and people could easily change their votes putting us in danger and creating a tie and if she had the idol why wouldn't she just use it instead of the OTT dramatics. And part of this was also me telling her Mia clearly didn't trust me if she felt that was necessary. Planting seeds.

    We get to TC and BJ's post was great about Mia being safe tonight. I had told them I would tell her that they were changing their votes to Lisa. And a few other key comments were made - such as my trust is the most important thing at this point in the game comment. Voting is closed.... wait for it.... wait for it... Mia doesn't use the idol. SHOCKER. Ya know... I didn't even break a sweat. For a little bit there I was freaking out that something weird was going on and people started talking and knew I was two timing everyone and that HII Thread was a threat to me that I better vote for BJ. But then thinking about it that didn't make any sense. So when Jeff posted the results, I wasn't even nervous. I was giddy almost. Mia... grab your torch. And I dropped a comment about that her stunt was too OTT and I was sorry.

    Now come the apologies. PM to Ami - I'm sorry but her move tonight proved she didn't trust me and I don't think I can play the game with someone like that and Tom is on the outs and will vote out BJ and Ibe with us so there's nothing to worry about or I wouldn't have done it and I still want to work with you - stuff. Ami does not appear to be mad. She was almost laughing. Maybe I'm overestimating how pissed Ami is going to be when she finds out I'm backstabbing her. It is only a dumb online game. I don't know why I felt so bad about it. Ami has that effect on people. It's why she needs to GO. icon_smile

    I also sent a PM to Lisa saying the same thing with a little added bonus that Mia was telling people to vote for Lisa instead of her. Of course I got no response. Why the fuck is Lisa here? Can someone tell me that? I mean this is supposed to be a fun pastime and if you don't want to do it, then why bother doing it? The girl basically shows up to read her PMs every day instructing her who to vote for. Then goes to the IC to suck at it. And then disappears until she has to log in and get her next instructions and continue to suck. IDGI. Why waste even that small amount of time? Whatever.

    So I hope everything is cool with Ami and she is serious about booting BJ on Sunday and she didn't go off and compare notes with them or anything. That's game over for Chad if that happens. But even if she did... I've been telling her 90% of the truth of my spying efforts. So there really is no reason for her to run off and say ZOMG Can you believe what Chad did????? to BJ or Ibe. And if she's being smart about this, none of us should want them in the finals. And they can't be trusted at all. Not that I can. But at least I'm half filling Ami in on my untrustworthiness so she knows what I was doing and why I was doing it. If anything she runs to Tom and Kim. Which more power to her. I think they have my back. I have no reason NOT to think they have my back. And at this point in the game, I can't imagine anyone (like Ami) is thinking HOLY SHIT IF CHAD MAKES THE FINALS HE'S GOING TO WIN. Because they really don't know everything that has been going on and what I am going to whip out of my ass whilst pleading my case to the jury. I'm just poor lonely Chad sucking at competitions and wishing someone would be my friend Chad. I have to tone down the backstabbing a bit though or Ami might take a shot at me.

    BTW..... I was totally trying to throw that competition tonight. icon_horror When I answered 200 for the number of message board posts I was hoping I got eliminated. How the fuck did I not get eliminated???? 180 BJ? That was REALLY your answer? Holy shit. But then when it was between me and Ibe, and I really wanted Ibe to be the next target, not BJ, I did answer the question correctly because at that point I wanted to take it away from him. My slowness got in the way once again. I would have answered 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000 for one of them if Jeff wasn't posting our answers. Oh well.
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Chad » Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:12:02 am

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    I really hope Ami doesn't pick up on what's really going on and start spilling the beans to Ibe/BJ. Just a few more days. I can't see why she would though. She doesn't want to sit next to Ibe or BJ at the end. I think she was the one who wrote "YOU are the jury threat" in her vote message tonight.

    *crosses fingers*
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Chad » Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:29:43 am

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    GODDAMMIT why does Ami turn me into a crazy person????? And Tom's making me all paranoid. ACK! OK I'm done now. No more psychotic posts.
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Brenda Lowe » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:53:55 am

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    Chad wrote:It's almost like I'm on Joe Schmo or something because this shit keeps falling into my lap from angels in reality heaven.


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    damn. The jig is up. Game cancelled.
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Chad » Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:48:03 am

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    Helen Glover wrote:You have the whole weekend ahead of you, so lots of questions that I hope you can give us some serious insight into where your mind is at, closing into this final week of potential mayhem.

    Is it a relief that Mia's gone? Are you satisfied with the move? How does it change the game, now?

    Talk me through the four others that joined you in voting her out tonight. What are the dynamics of that group?

    Do you want that group of five to go to the top? If they do, what would happen next?

    Do you think anyone within that group of five will turn on you specifically, or defect to the two outsiders who voted for Bobby Jon tonight? Is there anyone among that five who you think needs to go before the two outsiders?

    Then, let's focus on jury. Who do you ideally want to be in the end with? Why? Who do you definitely NOT want to be in the end with? Why? If you make it to the end, who do you think you'd most likely be with? Based on feasibility of them making it that for, or working with you to get there?


    I can't sleep so I'll answer these benign questions...

    Is it a relief that Mia's gone? Are you satisfied with the move? How does it change the game, now?

    Umm.. yea? Mia is gone because I decided to vote her out. So why would I not be relieved or satisfied?

    Talk me through the four others that joined you in voting her out tonight. What are the dynamics of that group?

    Two of the others are in my alliance and we discussed this at great lengths. The other two.... I needed to use for a vote. Which ironically the only reason they were talking to me in the first place was because they thought needed to use me for a vote. Those two are quickly going to find out that they are not running things around these parts and the wannabe puppeteers, are in fact the puppets.

    Do you want that group of five to go to the top? If they do, what would happen next?

    No, icon_laughing

    Do you think anyone within that group of five will turn on you specifically, or defect to the two outsiders who voted for Bobby Jon tonight? Is there anyone among that five who you think needs to go before the two outsiders?

    Seriously??????

    Then, let's focus on jury. Who do you ideally want to be in the end with? Why? Who do you definitely NOT want to be in the end with? Why? If you make it to the end, who do you think you'd most likely be with? Based on feasibility of them making it that for, or working with you to get there?

    At this point, it's Tom and Kim and I've explained that thoroughly. Ideally.... replace Kim with Lisa if I win F4 immunity. But that's getting ahead of myself. And I think if that F3 makes it there intact it will be based 90% on my actions, and 10% on their's. So I will have a really good case to plead for the jury. That is my plan and it seems to be playing itself out as we speak.
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Brenda Lowe » Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:51:41 am

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    So you're saying you're still just poor ol' on-the-outs Chaddie in the eyes of these other players? Have you any fear that people could look at your underdog arc and start thinking of you as a significant Jury threat?

    Give me a quick rankdown of what you think the *general perception* is of most to least likely to be voted for the win. Include yourself so I can see how you stack up against the others. I know that could potentially change depending on who is in the finals, and who is therefore on the Jury, but I'm just looking for a general biggest jury threat to least-likely-to-gain-enough-votes list.
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Chad » Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:37:48 am

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    I think Ibe and Bobby Jon are totally buying the act and using me for votes because they think I'm a chump. It doesn't matter if they start to fear my underdog arc as a jury threat because they will be long gone by then.

    Ya know... I hate doing that who is a jury threat thing. You never know who the jury is going to vote for or what their motivation is. I'm just trying to play a good game to get me to the end with the people I want to go there with and plead my case. They could be bitter. They could respect what I did. They could just outright like someone else better. I'm just trying to control the game make happen what I want to happen. And hopefully when I tell my story, it will be enough to beat anyone... Hopefully.
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Chad » Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:43:40 pm

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    I really don't want to gloat, because I could totally be getting Mia'ed and I don't want to be a fool...

    But HOT DAMN. I really think this is working.

    BJ and Ibe seem to really believe I am with them. Or at least that I will vote how they instruct me to. icon_wink I'm not exactly sure why because my actions throughout the game haven't exactly screamed "I wanna go to the end with BJ and Ibe!!!" I'm bullshitting them. I know I'm a good bullshitter. But these two are pretty gullible. I really think they are buying it. And I'm SURE behind the scenes they are giggling and thinking they have me wrapped around their fingers. Ibe - Ibe who has refused to even speak to me and basically told me to fuck off without using those exact words since the John boot - is now sending me piles of pages (and what incoherent piles of pages they are holy shit) of information on his sob story and how mean Tom is and how the jury hates him. icon_rolleyes

    My big fear was that Ami was going to figure out what was going on. And go to Ibe and BJ to try to stop it. But that really doesn't appear to be happening. If it was, Ibe would not be vomiting piles of incoherent pages on me to try to convince me to vote out Tom. He'd go back to ignoring me and being all cocky because he thought he was in control of the game. But his valiant attempts at convincing me how evil Tom is really makes me believe I am pulling this off. Am I pulling this off?

    Ami hasn't given me any inclination that she knows that Tom and I are working together. And she's clearly not running back to Ibe and BJ and reporting what I am telling her, as evidences by piles of Ibe vomit. And I have been about 90% honest with her and she knows about my "spying" efforts with Ibe, BJ, and Kim. And I tell her everything they say. And at this moment, it doesn't appear that any notes are being compared by the two sides. So I have to believe that Ami still trusts me and thinks I am with her until the end. Because she hasn't pulled anything. Or repeated anything I have said - not to Tom even. And as difficult as it is, I think I now have Lisa. She finally responded to my apology PM (which I threw in a zinger that Mia was throwing Lisa's name around as the vote and I felt Mia was putting us all in danger icon_smile ). So now I have at least a little communication with Lisa in case I'm going to need her if something nuts happens like Ibe wins immunity on Sunday. That would suck balls.

    I really think this is working. Holy shit. And we boot BJ on Sunday. Hope Ibe doesn't win immunity and boot him on Monday. Then we have two shots to get Ami out. Is this going to work??? I don't want to get cocky, but HOT DAMN.
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Brenda Lowe » Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:36:34 pm

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    Soooo, you get offline at the weekend much? icon_lol All day you are here whenever I check in. What is this vote split plan you Tom & Kim are talking about in PM? Isn't that a bit erm.. risky?

    Are you legitimately "that F3 the whole way!"

    And what is the back-up if there is a third Ibe-munity in a row the next night?
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Chad » Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:36:48 pm

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    I work from home so I always have my computer open and I refresh a lot. icon_razz

    The splitting the votes thing is only if Ibe wins immunity AGAIN on Sunday night. It poses a bit of an issue for us. Because we'd need to get out Ami. And I doubt after screwing him over again... that Ibe would agree to vote with us. He'd probably talk to her and try to get the votes to get Tom out again. So we have to lie. Kim could tell Ibe to vote for Tom.and that Ami and me agreed. The Guatuso girls would think the real target was Kim and vote for her. And then the three of us vote out Ami. Let's just hope Ibe doesn't win immunity on Sunday and we have no issue.

    Kim throwing a vote at Tom will make Ibe trust her and think she's one of the ones getting screwed over. And honestly if Ami and Lisa are going to flip and vote Tom out, they have four votes anyway so it won't make a difference.
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Brenda Lowe » Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:36:42 am

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    What thoughts on making a play for the idol by nabbing a clue come challenge time?
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Chad » Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:47:16 am

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    You asked me if I were really serious about the Kim/Tom/Chad Final 3 and I didn't answer. Yes. I am serious. In the beginning I wanted to try to switch out Lisa for Kim. But there's really no need for that and it would piss Kim off. So yes.... I am Tom/Chad/Kim Final 3 all the way. I just hope they are.

    And about the idol... no. No No No No. I do not want to drive myself nuts the last few days of the game trying to figure out a crazy idol clue. If I end up going, it's because someone is two-timing me. And it means I am going to lose anyway. No need for an idol at this point.
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Chad » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:10:23 pm

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    Dammit. This might be it for me. Ami and Ibe started talking. UGGGGHHHHHH.

    And and BTW... I no longer feel bad about having to cut Ami AT ALL if I make it that far.
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Brenda Lowe » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:31:44 pm

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    Why do you say that? What do you need to save you here?

    Regretting not opting for an idol clue yet?
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Chad » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:38:20 pm

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    I need Ami to save me. And she went and started spilling shit I told her to Ibe over the weekend and was relaying it all to Tom. If there wasn't a whole weekend between the Mia boot and now, this probably wouldn't have happened. But it was the risk of me voting off Mia.

    And NO I DON'T WANT A DAMN IDOL CLUE.
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Brenda Lowe » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:45:14 pm

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    So not to get ahead of ourselves, but you are relying on Ami to save you tonight - yet - you won't feel "bad about having to cut Ami AT ALL if I make it that far."
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Chad » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:50:14 pm

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    I'll explain more later. First of all... she made a F4 deal with Kim and Tom that did not include me. That was when I was all upset about backstabbing her. THEN she went and started talking to Ibe about all the crap I said to her about them. I think she was scrambling because she thought she may be the target after Mia.

    She says she is not voting me out. I'll just have to cross my fingers.
     

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