Episode 11

Postby Helen Glover » Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:55:25 pm

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    Gregg is gone in a landslide. Is the next boot set in stone? Or is it time to make a big move?

    Who is the core group that you plan on riding for the next few rounds?

    Are you confident that everyone in your inner circle is as loyal to it as you are?
     

    Re: Episode 11

    Postby Chad » Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:24:52 pm

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    I am about to go swimming in an Olympic sized pool of blood here.... OH EM GEE.
     

    Re: Episode 11

    Postby Helen Glover » Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:30:52 pm

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    So, I'm trying to get a grasp of Chad, and Chad's game right now. Tell me how this sounds: your top allegiance right now is to Tom, next are other people that work into your plans with Tom (Kim? Ibe, in another day or so, maybe? Lisa, down the road?), trailed by a fake allegiance to Mia/Ami which you'd presumably keep until you turn the tables and blindside them. Is that right?

    Is that on the right track? If so, tell us a little about why you've arranged your trust that way. What motivates you to work more closely with Tom on Tier 1 than Kim/Ibe/BJ on Tier 2 in Chad's trust list? And then all of the above being before the girls on Tier 3?
     

    Re: Episode 11

    Postby Chad » Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:44:34 pm

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    Tom has given me absolutely no reason not to trust him. He could totally be playing me. And if he is kudos to him. He is the only person in this game besides Kim or Lisa that has not lied to me that I know about. And I think I have a really good plan if I can pull it off. I think it will work.

    Ibe and BJ are fucking snakes and the only reason they want to work with me is because they need me now. Ibe has been an ass to me since the John boot even though I tried to work with him and I tried to apologize and make amends. Now all of a sudden I'm going to be in an alliance with him because he needs me? Fuck that. So what? Best case I sit with him and BJ in the F3? Yea... no thanks. And BJ has now tried to pull a fast one on me three fucking times. Why would I want to work with someone like that? I'm not a fucking idiot.

    As for the girls.... considering there is a clear divide down the middle of the tribe and based on everything I have learned, I'm pretty sure they are Guatuso to the end. The problem is.... I don't want to go to the end with Guatuso. I'm about to fuck a lot of people over and I need to be sitting next to someone who has done the same. That is Tom. The girls are too likable and too friendly with everyone. And there is a huge chance they would just cut me at F4 and take Lisa. And I cannot even try to compete with them in challenges. They need to go. I've said this since the original Guatuso days.

    The plan is a Tom/Chad/Kim Final 3. We need to ease into this Kim thing though. Ideally I would like a Tom/Chad/Lisa Final 3, but I'll work on that down the road.

    Is my game confusing?
     

    Re: Episode 11

    Postby Chad » Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:00:54 pm

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    Dammit to hell. DAMMIT. I feel bad about Ami. I feel really fucking bad about Ami. She just said she wants to sit next to me at the end of the game. I know for sure they are not working with anyone else. Because of my non-vote game strategy that Brenda hates, EVERYONE has been telling me EVERYTHING. I just hope these girls keep their mouths shut and don't spill anything.

    Anyway.... I'm not so sure Ami was really ever two-timing me. Is she sucking me into her trickery again? I'm going to keep things open here. I feel awful. She's the only one I care about fucking over. The rest of them can bite me. I mean Ami and I really did have a F2 since day 1. But then I got suspicious and didn't trust her. But I'm not sure that was founded. I don't want to sit next to her at the end. Do I? This jury is going to be BITTER. Kim or Lisa may even win. But then that's on them, not me. I feel shitty about this but I wasn't planning on cutting bait on Ami for a while anyway. I wonder if after we boot Mia after BJ she will trust me again. Probably not. I'll have to tell her a huge BS story.

    This Kim thing is a problem too. Don't know how to handle. She's kind of making a twosome deal with me now two. My strategy was really that bad Brenda???? I'm not sure that telling her before we boot BJ is the best thing to do. I can't do it. It would have to be Tom. Need to talk to Tom about this tomorrow.

    Also I don't want to play too hard here because I am trying to keep myself off the radar. I'm not sure that's going to be possible after what we are about to do the next few days though.
     

    Re: Episode 11

    Postby Chad » Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:04:21 pm

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    Ibrehem wrote:And the F3 would be Tom/Mia/Ami if we didn't. icon_rolleyes



    No Ibe. icon_no icon_no icon_no The F3 is going to be Tom/Chad/Lisa if I have anything to say about it.

    I am actually really loving this. icon_laughing They think Tom/Mia/Ami is the big danger here. icon_no The potential danger is actually Mia/Ami/Chad/Lisa... but icon_no The actual danger is Chad. icon_razz

    I know this is all going to back fire on me and I'm going to get outed and screwed. Oh well... at least I am trying right?
     

    Re: Episode 11

    Postby Chad » Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:04:23 pm

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    Ibrehem wrote:And the F3 would be Tom/Mia/Ami if we didn't. icon_rolleyes



    No Ibe. icon_no icon_no icon_no The F3 is going to be Tom/Chad/Lisa if I have anything to say about it.

    I am actually really loving this. icon_laughing They think Tom/Mia/Ami is the big danger here. icon_no The potential danger is actually Mia/Ami/Chad/Lisa... but icon_no The actual danger is Chad. icon_razz

    I know this is all going to back fire on me and I'm going to get outed and screwed. Oh well... at least I am trying right?
     

    Re: Episode 11

    Postby Brenda Lowe » Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:33:50 pm

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    Hey, I never said it was a bad strategy, just not something I could ever do! I just don't know how to not "play too hard" either.

    So much as you know how I like to screw with your noodle, and see if I can't just break your brain entirely before this game is out, what thoughts on the potential Chorotegan idol within this plan? And what thoughts on putting your own trust into the two people who have burned multiple sides the most?
     

    Re: Episode 11

    Postby Chad » Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:06:47 am

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    In case anyone wasn't keeping up, tonight BJ tried to play me again and get me to flip my vote from Gregg to Mia. He told me that Kim was flipping and they just needed my vote. First of all, let me preface this story with ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

    No... seriously.... ha

    Well what's so delicious about this, he just nailed his own coffin, and probably shot me to the Final 3. Here's why:

    1. It got Kim and I talking. Which was not happening previously. This is very good for the long term plan. Because see... BJ also tricked Kim by telling her I had already flipped. But I had told her I was voting Gregg prior to that so she asked me what was going on. So then we got to start consorting with each other and determining "together" that we were not going to change our vote. And Kim and I made a sort of unofficial agreement to work together. icon_yes Good. Very good.

    2. This little plan of theirs got me all the ammo I needed to get Mia off the let's boot out Tom next train, and all aboard the let's get out Bobby Jon train. Problem solved. Thank you Bobby Jon. icon_mml

    Are these people really this dumb BTW? Do they realize that when they make up a completely verifiable lie and tell it to people you barely have a relationship with, that they are probably going to compare notes? Like... did they think that there was no chance that while this was going on, that Kim might not PM me to ask me if I was really doing it? Are they delusional or something? I mean... come on.

    What's even more delicious about this... is if I decided to flip, Kim would have done it. Which means I could have been the deciding vote to keep Gregg tonight. See how this stuff works out? You really really really needed my vote tonight Gregg. Didn't ya? I wonder why you didn't get it? Why don't you ponder on that a little bit if you ever read this. Good riddance asshole. I can leave tomorrow and accomplished everything I have set out to do in this game.

    So after the vote.... BJ and Ibe have decided they want to be in an alliance with good ole buddy ole pal Chad. Yesirree. Me and my BFF Ibe, who has refused to speak to me since they booted John, and Bobby Jon who has now unsuccessfully tried to trick me into voting for someone 3 times now, are my bestest friends in the whole wide world. And the four of us are going form an alliance and go to the F4 together. I mean I totally trust that would happen. Why wouldn't it, right? They couldn't possibly be lying to me or anything. icon_no That would be reeee-diculous. I'm sure they want to take me to the end. Maybe they even would. As their goat. So I can sit there while they talk about what an awesome game they played and I can say baaaaahhhh. That sounds like the PERFECT plan. No thanks. Do these retards really think I want to work with them? On what grounds would I want to work with them? I guess maaaaaaybe if they really do think that Tom-Mia-Ami-Lisa are going to roll to the end, they maaaaaay think that I am afraid of that. But what they don't know..... although they think they have this whole thing figgered all out.... is that that is not what is happening at all. But they don't have a lot of respect for poor sad lonely no-voting puppet Chad. Chad is just going to hop aboard the let's fuck over Chad some more because he likes it train and take his medicine.

    Why am I speaking in the third person?

    And somehow.... after everything that has gone down.... after all the bullshit and BJ CLEARLY trying to play me multiple times and Ibe completely ignoring me for half of the game and refusing to even be courteous and lying to me about every single vote..... somehow they think it is a BRILLIANT idea that is going to get them to the F4 to tell me every single one of their plans and who they are targeting and that I am just going to go along for the ride and not tell the people, who actually speak to me and don't lie to me every other sentence, everything they are saying?

    What?

    I mean.... I already kind of have, and I most certainly will in the future, screw some people over in this game. But after that happens, would I then pretend none of that ever happened, attempt to form an alliance with them, and then start pouring out every thought that comes into my head about the game and expect them not to repeat it to anyone else? No. That would be really fucking stupid.

    Bobby Jon is going tomorrow night. He can thank himself (and me) for that. After that things get really tricky and I can't say I'm not nervous, because I am. Mia and Ami have to go. And that's gonna be really tough for me from both a game perspective and a personal perspective. But it is just a game. I just really don't want to be THAT guy. I think I started out maybe wanting to be that guy, but it's a lot harder than it seems. I feel pretty shitty about it because I really do think these girls are trusting me. Ami moreso than Mia. Mia would fuck over anyone. And we have to tread softly around the Kim situation. I think Tom needs to tell her the plan before tomorrow night. Or else she will never trust me. And if we want to do this F3 she needs to trust me. I just hope she doesn't go off and repeat it to the others or we are fucked. I'll talk to Tom about this some more tomorrow.
     

    Re: Episode 11

    Postby Chad » Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:14:33 am

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    Brenda Lowe wrote:Hey, I never said it was a bad strategy, just not something I could ever do! I just don't know how to not "play too hard" either.

    So much as you know how I like to screw with your noodle, and see if I can't just break your brain entirely before this game is out, what thoughts on the potential Chorotegan idol within this plan? And what thoughts on putting your own trust into the two people who have burned multiple sides the most?


    About the idol.... I'm pretty sure Mia has it. Which is why her boot needs to be a COMPLETE blindside after BJ goes. Which it should be. There will be the four Guatusos and then Tom, Kim, and Ibe. There should be no reason for her to think she is getting booted.

    And if BJ ends up having it. Oh well. We lost Mia a round early. No harm no foul. That actually may help me in the long run because I won't have to screw Ami over to get her out so I'm secretly hoping he has it. And we still have the numbers if Mia goes instead of BJ and we'll get him next time. If Ami has it, I'm hoping she freaks out and uses it before we were actually targeting her. She may get all paranoid and use it right after the Mia boot which is where I plan on getting Ibe out. So it wouldn't be an issue. I really get the feeling she doesn't have it though.

    And what two people are you talking about? Tom and...... who? I mean I could completely get burned by Tom. And if he screws me over... he deserves to win because he's getting me to do all his dirty work for him. That's a chance I have to take. It's the only chance I have to win. I cannot be sitting with Mia and Ami at the end. It just can't happen if I actually want to try to win.
     

    Re: Episode 11

    Postby Brenda Lowe » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:19:18 am

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    Tom and Kim I meant, as the two who have publicly turned on both Original Chorotega and NuChorotega at different points. How has it come to be that these two are the two you're putting significant amounts of trust in now? In fact if they work with you over whoever else, are they up to their old tricks? Do you see yourself as less likely to be burned by them than others?
     

    Re: Episode 11

    Postby Chad » Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:19:24 pm

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    Tom has explained to me in great lengths why he did what he did and I believe him. He felt Chris was two-timing him and he had to go. And Chris WAS two-timing him. And he was playing like a crazy man. He caused his own vote off. And he really did want to stick with nuGuatuso which was the reason for the Jolanda boot.

    As for Kim... Kim kinda does what she is told, so she hasn't really betrayed anyone.

    I trust that Tom is telling me the truth and he is serious about our deal and there is nothing that would make me think otherwise. I could be getting played, if so kudos. He's really good and deserves to win.

    Should I not trust Tom and Kim? Is that what you are saying? icon_confused
     

    Re: Episode 11

    Postby Brenda Lowe » Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:35:45 pm

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    lolno. I'm not coaching. Just as the numbers get smaller and smaller my questions get less and less generic, and more and more designed to make you doubt yourself icon_razz
     

    Re: Episode 11

    Postby Chad » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:06:39 pm

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    It's a lot smarter to get rid of Mia tonight, isn't it?

    It is. FUCK. Why did I swear to her I wouldn't vote for her? Why didn't I think this through? There are only two of Ibe/BJ. There are three of Ami/Mia/Lisa.

    FUCKBALLS. I think we have to vote Mia out tonight.

    Well I just lost 2 jury votes if I do this. Not that I wouldn't have anyway.

    I'm looking at the numbers. It makes way more sense to get rid of Mia. FUCK.
     

    Re: Episode 11

    Postby Chad » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:14:22 pm

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    I think we may need to vote out Ami tonight. I told them the plan was to get rid of Mia. And I wouldn't be breaking my swear to Mia about voting for her. If Ami has an idol... she's NOT going to use it.

    Holy fuck. Funny.... Kim got me thinking about this.
     

    Re: Episode 11

    Postby Chad » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:39:46 pm

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    But I have a problem... If Mia sticks around after I screw over Ami... she is going to run to Ibe and BJ and tell them everything I told her... That's not good.
     

    Re: Episode 11

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    I think you are perfectly fine at doubting yourself without my questioning icon_biggrin
     

    Re: Episode 11

    Postby Chad » Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:04:53 pm

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    Brenda Lowe wrote:I think you are perfectly fine at doubting yourself without my questioning icon_biggrin


    WHAT?????

    icon_eek

    Just kidding. Me, Tom, and Kim talked it through. We are voting out Mia. Worst case scenario is she idols out BJ. But then Ibe will not flip on us after that and try to pull any crazy shit.

    I'm going to have to do a major job on Ami after it's over. icon_cry But I think I can work that.

    Then next target........ Ibrehem.

    Also, I'm going to let BJ know right before the vote that they are voting him, not Lisa. So if he has the idol, he plays his.
     

    Re: Episode 11

    Postby Chad » Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:23:53 pm

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    Mia wrote:I 100% trust you. I know you're not lying. Don't worry at all.

    You should just tell them that I came to you and was concerned that I was going too. Tell them that I think that since I was targeted last night, and everyone is taking such great care to make me feel safe, I feel like I'm in danger. Just keep playing along as best you can.

    And I definitely appreciate you filling me in on this.



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    Re: Episode 11

    Postby Chad » Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:05:00 pm

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    This might be it for me...... Something weird is going on. I may be going home tonight.
     
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