Episode 12

Postby Helen Glover » Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:39:33 pm

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    You have the whole weekend ahead of you, so lots of questions that I hope you can give us some serious insight into where your mind is at, closing into this final week of potential mayhem.

    Is it a relief that Mia's gone? Are you satisfied with the move? How does it change the game, now?

    Talk me through the four others that joined you in voting her out tonight. What are the dynamics of that group?

    Do you want that group of five to go to the top? If they do, what would happen next?

    Do you think anyone within that group of five will turn on you specifically, or defect to the two outsiders who voted for Bobby Jon tonight? Is there anyone among that five who you think needs to go before the two outsiders?

    Then, let's focus on jury. Who do you ideally want to be in the end with? Why? Who do you definitely NOT want to be in the end with? Why? If you make it to the end, who do you think you'd most likely be with? Based on feasibility of them making it that for, or working with you to get there?
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Ibrehem » Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:56:45 am

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    Helen Glover wrote:You have the whole weekend ahead of you, so lots of questions that I hope you can give us some serious insight into where your mind is at, closing into this final week of potential mayhem.

    Is it a relief that Mia's gone? Are you satisfied with the move? How does it change the game, now?

    Talk me through the four others that joined you in voting her out tonight. What are the dynamics of that group?

    Do you want that group of five to go to the top? If they do, what would happen next?

    Do you think anyone within that group of five will turn on you specifically, or defect to the two outsiders who voted for Bobby Jon tonight? Is there anyone among that five who you think needs to go before the two outsiders?

    Then, let's focus on jury. Who do you ideally want to be in the end with? Why? Who do you definitely NOT want to be in the end with? Why? If you make it to the end, who do you think you'd most likely be with? Based on feasibility of them making it that for, or working with you to get there?


    I am extremely relieved that Mia is FINALLY gone! It was mostly Mia targeting the Jo/Ibe/Gregg alliance. I got one immunity for Jo, avenged my fallen comrades, and then won another immunity for Gregg. icon_wub
    I couldn't be more satisfied with that move. Now there are no more idols! I seriously doubt anyone left would risk taking a clue at the challenge unless they wanted a target tattooed on their backs. It changes the game because Ami/Tom/Lisa aren't as big threats.
    I think it's interesting that both idol wastes have been because of Chad. He knew Mia was lying, and as much as i don't really like him -- I knew he was 100% certain and I had to accept that he was most likely right. Something was telling me he was really truthful and I just knew that unlike Chad (who would never risk playing an idol on anyone other than himself), Mia would use the idol (especially after revealing it) to try and outsmart us. It's not about being safe, Mia has to be smarter-than-thou ALWAYS. She's a very witty little rodent. icon_laughing
    And who the hell else would know if someone was lying about playing an idol on themselves except the master, Chad? icon_lol
    The game is really changing, suddenly I feel in power (see? this is why my top-row theory is correct icon_wink )

    Well, the 4 others that joined me tonight were Bobby Jon, Kim, Chad and most surprisingly of all, Tom.
    You see, Tom makes horrible decisions. Usually they screw both of us over, but this time he just screwed himself. So maybe it's least surprising.
    I was worried about Chad and Kim, definitely. But like i said before, I knew Chad wasn't lying about voting Mia with us. Kim has been wishy-washy and I just told Bobby Jon this, she often gives very short replies. And it freaks me out, especially during the pre-tribal council scrambling. And then she disappears so I'm always freaked out when she leaves like that. (For the record, once again -- Kim voted for Jolanda, not Bobby Jon.)
    So, I'm a little frightened of Kim. Bobby Jon would take me over Kim, in my opinion. I don't know what to do about Chad. He said he was ditching the Guatuso-4 alliance in voting with us. He's kind of like the new 'Tom' of Guatuso. John was the first.
    Ready for this? He said we owed him for flipping (we ...kind of... do) and admitted to us that Mia and Ami were ostracizing Tom on purpose, and were only playing him this whole time.

    OH, REALLY? icon_rolleyes

    And apparently Tom STILL doesn't know this. icon_lol

    But the group right now is myself, BJ, Kim and Chad. We're still figuring out who exactly to vote for. I'm thinking Ami.
    And since I hardly talk about Ami (for a reason) I may as well address that. Like Lisa and Mia, Ami is someone I know would never flip to me, Kim, BJ.
    Maybe now, but she wouldn't as long as Mia and Tom were together with her. So I didn't even BOTHER talking to her, or any of them. I heard that Jo and Gregg were Mia's targets and that was all I needed to know. I'm not even slightly interested in becoming allies with someone like that. Sure, we talk and we act all nice, and she's hiding her anger really well. She likes to pretend that she's not mad about Mia's elimination but I know she's bummed, obviously. Karma, I guess? I'm having a difficult time choosing who I think we should get rid of first. All this time, Tom has had Kim wrapped around his finger, but with Mia gone and jury-threat Ami out of the picture -- it's safe to say Kim would now have Tom wrapped around her finger.

    To be honest, I'm still wary of Chad. I kind of owe Chad, but he's so good in challenges, and I think he would want to target me. I won two immunity's in a row, and that puts a target on me. Especially with Jo and Gregg on the jury. I don't see myself as a big threat though. I barely edged out Tom and Chad respectively for those wins. I hope I can keep it up though, because you never know...
    After Ami, I would want Tom gone or Chad. Whichever doesn't win immunity. And if neither of them do? I'd vote out Tom. If Tom does win? ...I could try to get Lisa to target Chad and hope Kim and BJ can stick with me. No problem with BJ, but Kim would go against me, I'm sure of it.
    That's why I would need a third. And we could tell Chad to vote Lisa. That way the votes could go: 1 Lisa, 3 Chad, 2 Ibrehem. Although Kim would tell Chad we were targeting him, so what's the point? It would tie if Lisa didn't vote for Chad.

    Ami and Lisa are the two outsiders from the 5. Tom would be too if he hadn't voted Mia. I still view him as one if I'm being honest.
    Like I said, if anyone was going to turn on me, it would be Tom, Chad and Kim.
    I feel like Bobby Jon would definitely be in the Finals with me. Kim if she stayed loyal. I'd probably go with those two. I feel like I wouldn't have a shot to even make it there with anyone else. It would be interesting if Chad eliminated Bobby Jon and took me though. I would have to put up a good argument that Bobby Jon is friends with everyone and the Guatuso people -hate- me. icon_razz Which is somewhat true.
    I wouldn't want to go up against Ami. She has as many Guatuso friends on the jury as I do Chorotega friends. Part of me would hate to end up against Lisa of all people, but lol I would hope they would respect my game over hers if that was ever unfortunate enough to happen.
    I feel like going up against Chad would be easier than i think. He foiled Mia's idol plan and I've stayed loyal to every single damn alliance I've been in. Nobody else has except...Lisa?

    1st: I voted Jeff and voted with the majority alliance on Chorotega.
    2nd: Julie boot
    3rd: I voted Dolly with my Choro-alliance, Gregg flips
    4th: I voted Dolly with my Jo/Ibe/Gregg alliance, Guatuso-alliance flips
    5th: I vote John with my Jo/Ibe/Gregg alliance, Brook flips
    6th: I vote Brook with my Jo/Ibe/Gregg alliance, Gregg almost flips XD
    7th: I don't vote for Caryn, technically I wasn't even aligned with her anyway though
    8th: I voted for Chris with the extremely temporary Choro-6 alliance
    9th: I voted for Lisa with my Jo/Ibe/Gregg/(BJ-secretly) alliance, Jolanda goes.
    10th: I voted for Mia with my alliance of Gregg, Gregg goes
    11th: I win immunity, I vote Mia with my alliance of Chad/BJ/Kim/Ibe, Mia eliminated.

    There will probably come a time where I'll vote against Chad, who knows? Part of me will feel bad because he helped me out, but god damnit I hate him, did you know he voted for me twice and still gave an immunity??? I don't owe him bullshit. icon_glare icon_glare icon_glare
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Brenda Lowe » Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:04:26 am

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    Niiiiiice confessional. I have only one question, and that is how do you approach the weekend break here? Do you use it to take a step back from the madness? Or are you more of a hands-on get-stuck-in player who will be using it to solidify things around here?
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Ibrehem » Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:55:22 am

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    Well, more stuff happened. I guess Tom made another horrible decision. He messaged Bobby Jon and threatened him.
    He was calling him like idiotic and a dumbass, and basically everything in the book that I would think of to describe Tom, ironically.
    So, I'm worried about Kim (when am I not?). If Tom outlasts me I'm gonna throw up, so we're trying to get Kim to give us a solid answer on whether or not she would eliminate Tom. The funny thing is, before the Mia vote I sent her a message simply defending why Kim should vote for Mia, and Kim replied with something like: "I was actually thinking about voting out Tom too for --whenever--"

    Something like that and I was shocked. So, fingers crossed she realizes that Bobby Jon deserves to make F6 and Tom deserves to go A.S.A.P. I'd say my revenge plot is going pretty well so far. I'm gonna message Chad and play up the "shocking news" about Tom alol
    Let's hope it gets him hating on Tom. And Chad should be for it since it's an original Chorotega boot.
    Interesting that I'm not paying half as much attention to tribal lines as I used to. :P

    (Speaking of revenge plots/Vanuatu players, before Mia was eliminated she never got to '*drops buff*'
    So if I make FTC I'm gonna go: "Mia, you've always been like a really annoying little sister to me, so I brought you your favorite buff. You didn't get to drop it on your way out.")
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Ibrehem » Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:56:11 am

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    Brenda Lowe wrote:Niiiiiice confessional. I have only one question, and that is how do you approach the weekend break here? Do you use it to take a step back from the madness? Or are you more of a hands-on get-stuck-in player who will be using it to solidify things around here?


    Oh, and I'm gonna try to stay active-ish. Maybe solidify some alliances, we'll see what happens with the vote.
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Ibrehem » Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:34:58 am

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    Tom can't spell respectful without FU.
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Brenda Lowe » Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:18:15 pm

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    I am interested about your stances on 'dereservedness'. Are you happy to go all the way with the most deserving players? Do you not fear losing out on some votes to these types of players, while a more goat-ey person dragged along would leave you with more opportunities to pick up jurors?

    Like, are you here to make new internet friends or are you here to win a million dollars??
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Ibrehem » Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:41:25 pm

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    Brenda Lowe wrote:I am interested about your stances on 'dereservedness'. Are you happy to go all the way with the most deserving players? Do you not fear losing out on some votes to these types of players, while a more goat-ey person dragged along would leave you with more opportunities to pick up jurors?

    Like, are you here to make new internet friends or are you here to win a million dollars??


    icon_laughing Million dollars<3 And I don't want everyone hating me when this is over.

    Can I make a list of people that deserve it?
    Bobby Jon.
    Ehhh, Lisa.
    Kim .....slightly
    And I'll throw myself in there since I've never gone back on an alliance...yet.

    I know Kim and Bobby Jon both voted for Gregg, which I understand and it's not like it would have mattered. Plus we needed it to look a little convincing that they were on Mia and Tom's side. (Though Chad ruined that by telling them we were plotting, he apologized.) I'm still a little disappointed though they did that.
    And at Kim for voting Jolanda.

    I like Kim, I do, but there's something about Kim that's off-putting. Like I've mentioned, oh, 1,000,000 times?
    And I can't fully trust her.

    I would love to go all the way with Bobby Jon and Kim because even though they are both deserving, they've BOTH gone back on alliances. Specifically alliances like Caryn, Chris, Jolanda, Gregg, Mia, {Tom, Ami, Lisa and Chad.(if we can get that far)} icon_wink
    And they are nice people. :P

    I don't think I could lose that many votes with those guys once the jury sees the great points I make. If I make it that far.
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Ibrehem » Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:43:14 pm

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    Ibrehem wrote:I would love to go all the way with Bobby Jon and Kim


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    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Brenda Lowe » Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:34:33 am

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    After two challenge wins back-to-back, any thoughts that maybe you could afford taking a disadvantage in the next as a trade-off for an idol clue? What's the risk/reward ratio on that for you?
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Ibrehem » Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:08:07 am

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    I'd look like a bigger threat than I already am. Nobody left wants anything to do with an idol. Although I would love it. :P
    I think I would rather win with no disadvantages so at least it looked like I was working for the win. And even in the last two challenges I only just barely edged out others for the wins. A disadvantage could cost me the win + make everyone target me for having a clue.
    I guess if I found the idol then so what? But it's just not my style.
    So, no, I couldn't risk it... I'm just trying to get others to think:
    #1 Most of the jury hates me
    #2 I barely won those two immunity challenges
    Which both are fairly true.
    I don't think most of the jury hates me, but they don't need to know that. :P
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Ibrehem » Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:17:27 am

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    Well, we just got word from Ami that Chad told them the next vote will be Tom, and they're targeting Bobby Jon.
    So BJ is mad, I'm...I don't know...
    I'm trying to persuade Ami to vote for Chad. I told her I would help her make Final Four the best way i can.
    I think I need to talk to Tom, maybe make him think "yeah, Chad wants us to vote for you, but he told Ami he's voting Bobby Jon with you."
    Something like that, idk. I'll work it out...
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Brenda Lowe » Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:17:36 am

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    I can't help but note a lot of talk of "sides" in your latest PMs. Give me an update on the different factions in the game right now.
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Ibrehem » Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:19:35 am

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    It's Lisa/Ami/Tom against Me/BJ/Kim
    With Chad in the middle.
    But I'm worried about just how long Kim will stay loyal to us.
    And if anything, even though I hate Tom, I'd rather he jumped to our side for this and the next vote.
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Ibrehem » Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:29:28 am

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    I just apologized to Tom and told him the situation.
    Honestly, that was so we can maybe get him on our side and to be more open to voting for Chad.
    I really wasn't apologizing though. I'm not voting for him if he makes finals. :P
     

    Re: Episode 12

    Postby Ibrehem » Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:45:15 am

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    I just sent this message to Ami, and just -- wow.

    "Remember when you posted our avatars in the halfway thread?
    Top row: Ami, Tom, Ibrehem
    Mid row: Mia, Chad, Gregg
    Bottom row: Lisa, Kim, Bobby Jon

    Well, I had a whole theory around it, you'll see in the confessionals.
    My theory was, the people in the top row were seen more like the leaders or the up-front players.
    The people in the middle were the ones that play both sides, the ones people target first because they're schemers. Untrusting ones, in general.
    The bottom row are the people that seem to be "wrapped around fingers" If that makes sense. :P The ones who slide by.

    And god damn, this theory is turning out very correctly so far. Gregg first, then Mia.
    If Chad is next, holy shit your innocent posting of our avatars would probably be one of the weirdest story lines ever in the history of the game. And you know what? If the numbers between the Final 6 are 3-3 after this, then it's only fair that way. Chad's had this coming for a long time."
     

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