Episode 14

Ah I'm not overly bothered. we never offered a clue, someone will complain about that for sure. But it's not like any of them would have taken one anyway.

Ami's reaction and those voting quotes are the greatest thing ever.

That having been said, not exactly loving F5 Idols.

I'll ditto that. I thought Gabon-Nicaragua having idols killed at F6 was a great step in the right direction, but of course they revert (though it's never made a difference since).

I'll ditto that. I thought Gabon-Nicaragua having idols killed at F6 was a great step in the right direction, but of course they revert (though it's never made a difference since).

They reverted due to Redemption Island and the possibility of someone coming back into the game with one. I think it's just way too awkward in the finale.

That would've been so odd if someone actually had an idol on RI. No one in the actual game would have an idol, but it wouldn't get replaced, either, since someone would have it on RI. Especially strange if, like, say Dawn had one, and she willingly gave it to Ozzy (before/after the duel) since he'd be most expected to return to the game. I'm kind of glad that never became an issue/plotpoint.

Ami would have been Idoled at F6 instead had we had it expire a round earlier, so its not like that doesn't happen somehow. :lol:

You're right, but technically, I think BJ would've played the idol on Ibe, meaning he, Ibe, Kim, and Ami would've been safe for PROD. And chances are, Tom or Lisa would turn to vote Ami out at that point, seeing that their side couldn't get numbers regardless.

With that scenario, we've never actually seen in the show if that would actually go to PROD since speculation in Nicaragua (although only Dan would've been eligible there) pointed to the fact that they might do fire at F6 depending on number of players who would have to draw rocks.

You're right, but technically, I think BJ would've played the idol on Ibe, meaning he, Ibe, Kim, and Ami would've been safe for PROD. And chances are, Tom or Lisa would turn to vote Ami out at that point, seeing that their side couldn't get numbers regardless.

With that scenario, we've never actually seen in the show if that would actually go to PROD since speculation in Nicaragua (although only Dan would've been eligible there) pointed to the fact that they might do fire at F6 depending on number of players who would have to draw rocks.

If, at the end of this period, we have a majority, the player with the most votes will go home. If, however, we do not, all players other than those with an immunity necklace and those who received the most votes in the initial tally will draw rocks.

Yeah, I know we'd have gone through with it.

But look at F6 Nicaragua with Fabio immune, and Chase/Sash playing idols... if Jane/Holly were deadlocked in a tie vote, Dan would be the only one eligible to draw rocks, and would thus be eliminated. Making me think Survivor would default to fire in that scenario (though unconfirmed), much like at F4 when only one player would be eligible. An open question would be if two players being eligible is enough for rocks to stay in play, and it probably is.

This isn't so much about Stranded as it is simply pontificating.

Prepare for more pontificating (which really belongs on Sucks, but alas).

I'm actually surprised that the show hasn't done an 8-person jury and final 3 until now. It actually makes a lot of sense. With final 3's, the 7-person jury (though we've never had trouble with it) is veering dangerously close to ties or a plurality-but-not-majority winner, which is fine, but just blah. Meanwhile, the 9-person jury leads to all of this debate and uncertainty. Snap IC? Revote? Finalist vote?

The 8-person jury really has the best of all worlds. It's more than a 7-person jury but lacks the outrageous contingencies required by a 9-person jury. The only plurality-but-not-majority winner would be a 4-3-1/4-2-2 vote. In the event of a tie (4-4-0 or 3-3-2), revote takes place. In the event of a deadlock, third place finalist breaks the tie. Plus, an unexpected medivac would simply make a 9-person jury and F2. What's the harm in that? The classic seasons started the jury one episode after the merge. With the merge now moved to F12 generally, why couldn't that precedent be revisited?