Welcome, Ibrehem (6th Place)

You two can harp on my game all you want, but it wasn't anywhere close to as complex as yours were. I can't follow any of this... But I guess it's making for a good season?

Exactly. Still think I was a goat and Ibe was a floater?

Yeah, I do, honestly. I doubt you'll agree with me on this, but there's a such thing as TOO complex. I don't think either of you could have held things together much longer. Players like Ami and Kim were just so much more cool about their gameplay... It was just clear that you were playing too hard and Ibe was trying to make it look like he WASN'T playing too hard.

I could have held things together had Lisa or Tom left. Definitely. Kim and Bobby Jon were solid with me.
I mean, you wouldn't know, but they were.
The next vote would have been 3-2.
And then whoever was left would go at the Final 4.
Unless that person won immunity, then, it probably would have been a tie between me and Kim. I feel Bobby Jon would have tied it up to give me a chance.

Mia's been going full retard ever since I got here.

Mia's been playing "god I can't believe I'm on the worst jury ever" ever since she got here.

Tell us about all those moves that you made for YOURSELF, Ibe. Moves that didn't involve Jolanda contributing, moves that didn't require BJ or Kim to approach you first, etc.

I mean, even Chad can say he's done this. BJ can. Tom can. Kim and Ami not so much, but they're both great fucking manipulators. Lisa has retracted into her shell hardcore and is playing oblivious.

I mean, I could be wrong, but you've played the most simultaneously OTR/UTR game out of anyone here, and it doesn't make sense.

I can name a few things.

1. Ibe was trying to get Tom out last night. Hard. He was trying to convince Kim and I that that was the right thing to do.
2. Ibe figured out my bullshit and what I was doing and got people (ALMOST including Ami) to vote me off.
3. Ibe was helping BJ's case how he got screwed over by Tom to make him look like a sympathetic character instead of the crafty player he was.

Last night you were talking about how I made no game moves and I sucked and was a goat. Tonight you have refocused, after I explained some things to you, that Ibe was a floater and was riding coattails.

Neither one of us got blindsided by a 5-3 vote with an idol in our pockets. I got idoled out with 2 votes at F7 and Ibe got purple rocked out.

Feeling a bit paranoid, I spoke to Ibrehem and BJ about all of the things you have told me about them, and I shifted the target to you that night I didn't want you to leave, but I wanted your game to fall apart. No offense, it was just the game.

Feeling a bit paranoid, I spoke to Ibrehem and BJ about all of the things you have told me about them, and I shifted the target to you that night I didn't want you to leave, but I wanted your game to fall apart. No offense, it was just the game.

Obviously Ami. I will tell you it made me feel a LOT better about my intention to vote you off after a few rounds. I was having mental issues about backstabbing you.

I really did like playing the game with you Chad.....but you would have done anything to get ahead, and that was enough for me to work against you I saw it early on the first weekend.

I was too, but earlier on obviously. Ami is just too hard to backstab.

I knew you were going to be paranoid after I voted Mia off. I knew there was a risk you would spill to Ibe and BJ. But it had to be done and I was aware of that risk.

You knew I was going to be ruthless??? Oh... I guess I did talk to you a little way in the beginning about wanting to do some things that would make that obvious.

I also didn't trust you at all. But in hindsight I actually think a lot of the things I thought you did was actually Brook. I barely talked to Brook and I didn't think he would play the way he was playing.

Brook had a loose mouth and was a detriment to my game, and I have to be honest, I was sooo relieved that Brook and John left premerge. I had absolutely no intention of joining back up with you guys if you all made the merge.

I really REALLY wanted to go to the end with NuChorotega. I loved that tribe.

NuChorotega was the best for sure. I guess I knew it was too good to be true when Jolanda convinced Tom to take out Caryn first...

NuChorotega was the best for sure. I guess I knew it was too good to be true when Jolanda convinced Tom to take out Caryn first...

Uh, Toms the one who told me to vote Caryn out first.

Really? I told him it wasn't a great idea and he told me that you and Ibe wouldn't budge, and he had to make you guys feel like you were part of the big picture.

...I thought eliminating Caryn wasn't a great idea either. :P

Tom said, "we should take out Caryn first, then go from there (voting off all Guatusos)" It wasn't my idea, it was Tom's. I just went along with it, he never offered me any other decisions. :P

So it looks like nobody was happen with booting Caryn, but Tom just told both sides that the other side was doing it too?

Honestly, no offense Caryn, but I don't think you would have accomplished much more if you had been left in the game much longer. You could have stayed.

I couldn't figure out for the life of me why we booted Caryn first. But I wasn't exactly in a place at that point to try to make any noise. It really made no sense.

That really was a good move on Tom's part. I was the same way... it was like if I wanted Jolanda gone, I figured I would have to keep quiet and let Caryn go first. He really did a great job keeping it so none of us questioned him.

Its really hard to deny that Tom played a really strong game, i thought my vote for him would have been locked, but i really do respect Kim's game as well.

In hindsight it would have been boring if Guatuso joined Caryn and sailed to the f6 so it worked out to be a crazy season with her leaving first.

Its really hard to deny that Tom played a really strong game, i thought my vote for him would have been locked, but i really do respect Kim's game as well.

In hindsight it would have been boring if Guatuso joined Caryn and sailed to the f6 so it worked out to be a crazy season with her leaving first.

I disagree. I don't think Tom played a good game at all. He lied his ass off constantly, made promises he couldn't keep, and moved forward into the game without giving two shits about anyone except himself.
Kim's game was the same as Tom's in my eyes, after all she made the same moves he did -- except in the end she stuck with me. Credit to her for that. It was probably the first time she and Tom didn't vote together. I don't respect her game as much as I thought I would after reviewing things.

Well i don't really believe that Tom played a great textbook winning kind of game, i was just pointing out how strong it was. I mean, after reading everything here last night, Chad and Mia were still fighting over who was closest to Tom over the other. Sure he backstabbed practically everyone....but i still give him at least a little pat on the back for how much control he had for most of the game.

I really would like to know in all honesty just what Tom's ideal moves for every round just to see if it all matched up. Im sure we will only really find that out though when we can view his confessional. You just know he will say everything he did was on point

Its really hard to deny that Tom played a really strong game, i thought my vote for him would have been locked, but i really do respect Kim's game as well.

In hindsight it would have been boring if Guatuso joined Caryn and sailed to the f6 so it worked out to be a crazy season with her leaving first.

I disagree. I don't think Tom played a good game at all. He lied his ass off constantly, made promises he couldn't keep, and moved forward into the game without giving two shits about anyone except himself.
Kim's game was the same as Tom's in my eyes, after all she made the same moves he did -- except in the end she stuck with me. Credit to her for that. It was probably the first time she and Tom didn't vote together. I don't respect her game as much as I thought I would after reviewing things.

Ibe... with all due respect. You weren't exactly the pillar of honesty.