Day 30 - Final Tribal Council

Awesome answers both of you :). Good luck.

Thanks Chris.

Thanks Christopher

Thank you chris. Again we'll move on while Lisa answers.

Jolanda, are you ready boo?

I'm ready...boo. Lemme just get them from my other thread.

Hello, everyone! Nice to be talking to you again! First off, I'd like to say congraulations on making it to the Final Tribal Council! I know how tough this game is, and it probably only got worse since I was voted off in the final 10. On my boot, I'd like to say that I have no hard feelings to any of you, I'm not a bitter juror. Thirdly, I would like to tell you that my vote is up for grabs tonight, so I could be voting for ANY one of you, depending on how you answer the questions tonight. I am looking for honest answers, nothing more. Don't bloat yourself to make it look like someone your not, because that may loose my vote. Okay, now for the three of you individually.

Bobby Jon: Bobby Jon, I liked the way you played this game. I feel as if you have been loyal to whoever was loyal to you, and if they weren't, you weren't. I respect that. I also commend you in your challenge wins and the two immunity idols you found that kept you safe this long. Had it not been for different types of immunity, you would have at the final 7, and probably every Tribal after that, so good job with the challenges taking you here. However, some of the jury may think that only your immunity wins took you here. So, what was your biggest move in this game that had NOTHING to do with immunity idols or necklaces or whatever.

Kim: Kim, the way you played this game is the way I was planning on before the game started. You were UTR-MOR in the pre-merge, staying out of people's ways, but slowly working your way into things. You kind of got carried through the premerge with NuChorotega, because, let's face it, NuGuatuso sucked at challenges. So, then the merge hit, and you came out of the gates as a force to be reckoned with, you had two immunites, and I thought nothing of it, until my boot where I realized you were really here to play, and play you did. Did you decide to start playing the game at the F6, or was this your plan from the beginning?

Lisa: Lisa, Lisa, Lisa. I honestly don't know what to think of your game. On one hand, I think you have been carried here by stronger players, and got here through dumb luck. But, on the other hand, I think it's genius what you did. After the immunity challenge where you were voted the most UTR player, you stuck to being UTR. Up to the final 5, I was wondering how the hell you were still there, but then I realized that your strategy is great, stay out of the way, and let the stronger players take eachother out, and it obviously worked because it got you here. But, I feel like a person has to make at least one important decision to be worthy of their place in the game. So, what was the most important decision you made in this game that got you here?

Thanks guys, I'll be reading the rest of you answers. Good luck!

New questions:


Lisa, it's sad that considering you were the only person who was on every single tribe that I was on throughout the game- I feel like I spoke with most of the jury more than you. At the first tribe, you would've survived because everyone hated Mia. At the second tribe, you would've stayed because everyone didn't trust Ami. In the third tribe (if we had continued with the pre-merge phase like we thought), I'm the one who got you into a good position. And at the merge, everyone just wrote you off as a player. I want to vote for you, but to get my vote you're going to have to show me that you took control of your destiny in this game. Give me at least three instances where you made SURE your name wasn't going to be written down anytime soon. And "being UTR" is not an answer.

1. Waaaay back at the original Guat I wanted to get into a majority alliance right away to make sure I would be on the side in control and be safe for awhile so I would have voted with the majority if we would have lost again after the Julie vote.

2. At NuChoro I made sure to solidify my alliance with you, Ami, and Mia as the original Guat members and also talked with Tom a lot and made sure I was covered on that end too so, as long as nothing crazy happened, I think I would have been fine if NuChoro would have lost any of those challenges up to the f12.

3. Once we got to the merge, I wanted to make sure that everyone I was with knew they could trust me. As long as I was seen as a loyal vote then I would be a valuable alliance mate and wouldn't be seen as disposable, so I didn't flip and stuck with my group.

Bobby Jon: Bobby Jon, I liked the way you played this game. I feel as if you have been loyal to whoever was loyal to you, and if they weren't, you weren't. I respect that. I also commend you in your challenge wins and the two immunity idols you found that kept you safe this long. Had it not been for different types of immunity, you would have at the final 7, and probably every Tribal after that, so good job with the challenges taking you here. However, some of the jury may think that only your immunity wins took you here. So, what was your biggest move in this game that had NOTHING to do with immunity idols or necklaces or whatever.

Thanks for the great question Jolanda. The biggest move that I made that had nothing do with any kind of immunity was my fake 'Caryn' vote for Lisa at the final 12. It wasn't a big move in terms of being flashy or surprising, but it had a big impact on the rest of the game. I was able to keep my word to Caryn that I wouldn't vote for her, I was able to set up Chris as the next target without anybody knowing I had done so, and with Chris gone I had dismantled some of the power that the Chris-Ami-Mia-Tom alliance had, opening up more options for me in the remainder of the game.

Kim: Kim, the way you played this game is the way I was planning on before the game started. You were UTR-MOR in the pre-merge, staying out of people's ways, but slowly working your way into things. You kind of got carried through the premerge with NuChorotega, because, let's face it, NuGuatuso sucked at challenges. So, then the merge hit, and you came out of the gates as a force to be reckoned with, you had two immunites, and I thought nothing of it, until my boot where I realized you were really here to play, and play you did. Did you decide to start playing the game at the F6, or was this your plan from the beginning?

Hey Jolanda. Like I said in the previous question, yeah my pre-merge game wasn't the greatest, but I did what I could. There was some obvious drama brewing over at nuChorotega and I knew it was best to displace myself from that as much as possible without getting the Lisa "she never talks" treatment. Every conversation I had and I every decision I had to make, I knew I had to play it smart. I always knew my pre-merge would be rocky but once I got to the merge I would flourish since I had painted myself as a non-threat but not to the point where I was just getting carried (Lisa). And it worked, and I was playing.
The first two votes were easy, and in that time I made a side-alliance with Gregg because we both agreed our best shot at winning was against each other. Voting you out took a lot out of me but looking back I knew I had to do it. I was convinced that had I stuck to original Chorotega completely to the very end, I would not be at the Final Tribal Council.
In fact, I heard a rumor that at the beginning of the merge you started a group message with all the Choros but didn't include me? That was just a huge red flag and although I agreed to vote Lisa that night, I knew I had to get you out. If original Chorotega stuck together, you would've been calling all the shots and I just don't think I wouldn't have made it any farther than like 5/6th place.
Like I addressed in my opening statement, getting Mia out was my biggest move. Had I not decided that was the right thing to do, Bobby Jon would've just been voted out that night in an unceremonious 6-2 vote. But I felt like even though I was playing the game the whole time, I needed to make it aware that I was playing a big game, and when Mia was voted out my chances of making the finals got 300% better. And even Bobby Jon admits that the move was mostly mine and Chad's, and without me, Bobby Jon would not be here.
But that wasn't really known. At Final 6, I know I needed to make myself known to the jury. So that's the time I knew I had to step out and make myself known and take a huge huge huge risk, but I built up the bonds with Ibrehem so he would risk a tie for me. Even though I double-crossed both Bobby Jon and Ibe by that point they still loved me and were willing to work with me, probably because it was the only option they had, but then again, that was my strategy.
Then at Final 5... everyone saw it and I don't need to elaborate on it. I wanted Ami out and I was gonna stop at no costs to make sure she was gonna go out. And the only way I knew that would work is if I won immunity.

Thanks Lisa. Good luck to you as well :)

Kim: Kim, the way you played this game is the way I was planning on before the game started. You were UTR-MOR in the pre-merge, staying out of people's ways, but slowly working your way into things. You kind of got carried through the premerge with NuChorotega, because, let's face it, NuGuatuso sucked at challenges. So, then the merge hit, and you came out of the gates as a force to be reckoned with, you had two immunites, and I thought nothing of it, until my boot where I realized you were really here to play, and play you did. Did you decide to start playing the game at the F6, or was this your plan from the beginning?

In fact, I heard a rumor that at the beginning of the merge you started a group message with all the Choros but didn't include me?

I'll explain this in great detail when the game's over.

(This means: I didn't even notice, I must've forgotten :P)

Kim: Kim, the way you played this game is the way I was planning on before the game started. You were UTR-MOR in the pre-merge, staying out of people's ways, but slowly working your way into things. You kind of got carried through the premerge with NuChorotega, because, let's face it, NuGuatuso sucked at challenges. So, then the merge hit, and you came out of the gates as a force to be reckoned with, you had two immunites, and I thought nothing of it, until my boot where I realized you were really here to play, and play you did. Did you decide to start playing the game at the F6, or was this your plan from the beginning?

In fact, I heard a rumor that at the beginning of the merge you started a group message with all the Choros but didn't include me?

I'll explain this in great detail when the game's over.

(This means: I didn't even notice, I must've forgotten :P)

Must be a part of my low-key strategy I guess
Can't wait to talk after the game girl. Thanks for the question, it's been fun.

Thanks jolandagirl.

Mia, I KNOW you're ready.

In fact, I heard a rumor that at the beginning of the merge you started a group message with all the Choros but didn't include me?

I'll explain this in great detail when the game's over.

(This means: I didn't even notice, I must've forgotten :P)

Must be a part of my low-key strategy I guess
Can't wait to talk after the game girl. Thanks for the question, it's been fun.

I used to be the one people forgot about, right Jolanda?

Lisa: Lisa, Lisa, Lisa. I honestly don't know what to think of your game. On one hand, I think you have been carried here by stronger players, and got here through dumb luck. But, on the other hand, I think it's genius what you did. After the immunity challenge where you were voted the most UTR player, you stuck to being UTR. Up to the final 5, I was wondering how the hell you were still there, but then I realized that your strategy is great, stay out of the way, and let the stronger players take eachother out, and it obviously worked because it got you here. But, I feel like a person has to make at least one important decision to be worthy of their place in the game. So, what was the most important decision you made in this game that got you here?

Thanks Jo!! Yes I agree and I think my pivitol decision was when I chose to not go with Ibe's offer at f9. He approached me for the "outcasts" to team up and take out all the big threats in the game and it was a really appealing offer but ultimately I chose to stick with Ami/Mia/Tom/Chad and stay with them. It could have come back to bite me since Ibe's group took contol for awhile after that but I think that's what really helped me in the long run since that's when it was really clear to my group that I was loyal and wasn't going to flip so I wasn't disposable. It might not get me the votes but I think it's what got me here and in order to even have a shot at getting votes I would have to get here first.

Just give me a sec, Jeff.

Must be a part of my low-key strategy I guess
Can't wait to talk after the game girl. Thanks for the question, it's been fun.

Thanks Kim, Lisa, and Bobby Jon for the answers! We'll catch up after the game is over! :) Had a great time!

I used to be the one people forgot about, right Jolanda?

Haha, yep. I only said that for lack of better answer to that question. But that was only half of my answer :P

Thanks jolandagirl.

I perfer jolandabbygurl, actually Jeff :P

First off, I'm not going to say congratulations to any of you, because I don't think any of you deserve it. You have all played good games, but none of you have played a game that I can fully respect and say, "Hey, now THAT is a winning game." Basically, I'm undecided tonight, and my opinion on all of you is that you all suck until you can prove to me otherwise with your answers tonight.

First off- Booby Jaundice. I'm definitely not voting for you, so you can just pretend like I'm not even addressing you tonight. Sure, saving yourself with 2 idols is impressive, and winning last night's immunity was nice. But I think most of us can agree that getting here with not only 1, but 2 idols means that you played an excessively shitty game. You were going home twice. You couldn't keep your gameplan together well enough to keep you here. Saying "I WANTED the most votes so I could decide who was going home" is fucking stupid. Yet somehow, here you sit. You made a nice sneaky move with Chris at the final 11. Your move to take me out was respectable, but the problem was that it took you 3 times to accomplish it. You tried to take out Lisa instead of Jolanda. You tried to take out me instead of Gregg. And then you finally succeeded, but again, I don't think this was your doing. My idol stunt was what sold the likes of Tom and Chad on flipping. You were only there to offer your vote. You can think you made big moves if you want, but they were all carried out with the power of others. You were disposable and don't deserve a single vote tonight. You're a fucking loser.

Kim- I'd like to vote for you, but again, I just can't bring myself to do it until you make me a believer. I want you to tell me what the fuck you did in this game prior to my boot. And make me believe it, because as far as I can tell, you floated along in NuChorotega and said just enough to the rest of us to make you at least semi-liked so you wouldn't be booted first. What deals did you have? Who were you talking to? Because besides our discussion about your boobs, I got nothing from you. And then the merge. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you jumped on board with voting Caryn, Chris, Jolanda, and Gregg, and then FINALLY you made a move for me. I know about your final 3 deal with Chad and Tom. Describe that for me. Who was the goat in that situation? Do you really think you would have won? Regardless, you're sitting here based on a lot of luck, just like Bobby Jon. Only you at least played the game somewhat better. Give m something to believe in, and you just might get my vote.

Lisa- You're the sweetest person in this game. You haven't said an awful thing about anybody. You have no enemies. But basically, you have nothing. You did nothing. Basically useless in challenges. But you're sitting up there while 9 much tougher competitors are sitting here on the jury. So something HAD to have worked. I want you to tell me what you did BESIDES the under-the-radar game you played. I asked you several times to help me think of a way to shake things up and change the course of the game, but every time I asked, you gave me a boring and totally expected answer. You played it safe, and now you're sitting in the finals. Now is the time to give the jury something. Tell us SOMETHING. ANYTHING. Throw them under the bus. WHATEVER. I don't think I'm alone in being one of the ones that WANTS to vote for you, but at this point, none of us really CAN vote for you in good conscious.

Finally, I want you all to answer this: Rank the gameplay of all 9 of us sitting on the jury, from worst to best. After that, I want you to tell us which vote-off changed the course of your game and solidified why you're sitting up there tonight.

Thank you.

Mia out.

Jeff, can you edit the name of the thread? :P

Jeff, can you edit the name of the thread? :P

PLEASE.

it's a disgrace to the game.